There he stood, perched on a box, shouting questions and clenching dollar bills. Curious San Diegans circled ‘round, eager to earn a buck in exchange for a correct answer.
Comic-Con was in full swing and so, too, was the influx of corporations and vendors with mountains of swag to unload on attendees. The only thing unclear about the guy on the box was which company he represented.
“What’s this?” I whispered to an observer.
“It’s some religious thing,” he said, unimpressed but offering guesses nonetheless.
The guy on the box—wrongly presumed to be Ray Comfort because of his similar tactics—asked a few simple trivia questions before getting to the five dollar question. That got the crowd’s attention.
“Who here is a good person?” he asked. A few raised their hands. “I don’t want a Christian,” he clarified, “I want a good person.”
A young man left his hand up and was selected to take a stand on the box across from the preacher’s. Soon the eager look on the young man’s face melted into humiliation as he became the center of a public lecturing.
You say you’re a good person but have you ever lied?
Yes.
And what do you call people who lie?
A liar.
So what are you?
A liar.
By the end of the lecturing, the volunteer was forced to call himself a liar, a thief, and an adulterer. The five dollars hardly seemed worth the ridicule.
The only thing sadder than the look on the young man’s face is the fact that, by the end of the encounter, he was likely dissuaded not persuaded. The preacher’s intent was muddled by his antagonistic rhetoric—a fact that is seen too often within the church and with well-meaning believers.
Aristotle referred the “modes of persuasion” (ethos, pathos, and logos) as the only true constitutes of the art of rhetoric: “everything else is merely accessory.” So what exactly are ethos, pathos, and logos? Philosopher/theologian Kenneth Samples explains.
Logos is the content, what apologists consider as the “guts” of the message. This is the inner coherence of arguments and counter arguments….Pathos is an appeal based on emotion. Often this takes the form of stories, metaphors, and illustrations that tug at the listener’s heart. The third element is ethos, which refers to the credibility and character of the communicator.
A look back at Aristotle’s words drives home the point:
But rhetorical persuasion is effected not only by demonstrative but by ethical argument; it helps a speaker to convince us, if we believe that he has certain qualities himself, namely, goodness, or goodwill towards us, or both together.
We find a similar sentiment in 1 Peter 3:15 “…Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect.”
The leadership team at RTB recently reaffirmed the core values that motivate our mission, and 1 Peter 3:15 serves as a key component to two of those values.
- Readiness to give reasons…(1 Peter 3:15a)—because people have questions and doubts that deserve a reasonable, well-researched response and
- “…with gentleness, respect, and a clear conscience” (1 Peter 3:15b)—because people list to our attitude and demeanor as much as to our words.
Whether making a case for belief over disbelief or Marvel over DC, a master in the art of rhetoric will find balance among the three modes of persuasion. For over 25 years, our team of scholars have worked to masterfully maintain a balance among these three modes, and I’m grateful. For a ministry to conduct itself otherwise seems counterproductive, at best.
–Sandra
August 5, 2011 at 8:10 am
The Bible teaches us to be as wise as serpents, but as gentle as doves. Our world is a person bashing, non-loving place and the last thing someone seeking God is his brow beaten with shame.Love and kindness ( a cup of water given in His name…) mean a lot more. There’s a song. . .”And they’ll know we are Christians by our love” We need to practice that every moment of every day. Pat
August 11, 2011 at 7:28 am
Excellent reminders, Pat. I just read Matt 10:16 the other day, too, and thought of how we, myself included, sometimes struggle to find a balance between being wise and being gentle. But, as you said, we need to practice that every moment of every day. 🙂
August 5, 2011 at 9:12 am
The statement “The five dollars hardly seemed worth the ridicule.” really hit me. I looked up the definition for “ridicule” and got “speech or action intended to cause contemptuous laughter at a person or thing; derision”. Do you believe that was the intent of the preacher? Or did the audience have contemptuous laughter for him?
I find myself wanting to make excuses or rescue someone when they are experiencing pain, but sometimes that pain is good, revealing and eventually healing. Not only for the young man, who was very brave to step forward, but perhaps those listening as well.
What, in your opinion, would be a better way the preacher could have approached this matter?
August 5, 2011 at 9:48 am
Good question about the use of the word ridicule. There was a moment when the young man was asked if he had ever looked at a woman with lust. He paused (as if really thinking about it) and eventually answered no. The preacher then said, “Well, you’re certainly a liar.” That, to me, sounded like ridicule. And it did incite laughter. In my opinion, the preacher could have given examples of what it means to look at a woman with lust, as he did when the young man said he never stolen anything; perhaps the young man was unfamiliar with what it means to look at a woman with lust, or perhaps he’s not attracted to women. The preacher could have also joined in with the young man, saying he too falls short of God’s standard. We all do.
By the way, I had thought about running this article by you before posting. I wish I had. It would’ve been a better piece because of it. Thank you for asking questions and sharing. 🙂
August 5, 2011 at 11:36 am
This is classic Master’s Commission model that this guy was trying to use (on a grand scale). I have spoken with so many people who love this whole model of evangelism.
Your comment “he was likely dissuaded not persuaded” is exactly what I keep wondering whether these people are ever actually aware of. Sadly, it seems to me it is a lost reality to their naivety.
August 5, 2011 at 1:27 pm
You bring up an excellent point “I keep wondering whether these people are ever actually aware.” I thought the same thing and had hoped to talk with the preacher afterwards. I wanted to share with him how his preaching came across to me–someone who was once so immersed in disbelief and all too familiar with his style of preaching; How that style of preaching would have never moved me to faith; How Truth coated in gentleness and respect is much easier to swallow.
But once the conversation with the young man ended, another one began. A different young man stood on the box and the two debated loudly–the young man sprinkled in language I didn’t want my kids to hear so we walked away. My hope is that someone will be willing to have a conversation with the preacher and share how his approach comes across and that he will be open to the discussion.
August 5, 2011 at 1:31 pm
I agree with PC to an extent, but I find myself becoming (painfully) aware of my position perched safe in a balcony above those who are out doing the dirty work of sharing the Gospel. I have perspective that those who are “in the game” don’t have.
I can make calls (even rightly) about this one was too strong, this one was too wishy-washy, this one used words that were too lofty, but that one, oh, that was a good one. All the while, never doing the work myself. The fact that my critique is not offered to the brother or sister sharing for the sake of refining their presentation means I am neither a player nor a coach. I’m not in the game at all. Rather, I just elevate my balcony into a even higher position, safe away from the danger of getting involved.
August 5, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Michelle, I’ve sometimes wondered the same thing. I saw a man outside a movie theater preaching to the crowd. Immediately, I cringed–but then I wondered if his method was actually effective on some occasions or if someone like me could offer brotherly (or in my case sisterly) feedback on how the preaching sounded.
August 5, 2011 at 2:10 pm
The part that is leaving me curious about myself, is WHENEVER I see a street preacher, I cringe. I don’t even have to hear him. What is that about? Am I embarassed for him? Am I feeling guilty and excusing it by acknowledging how annoying it can be? I’m not even sure.
I became more aware of it when a friend who is a Pastor in FL was visiting and we went to Venice Beach, CA (with all the freaks, geeks, and weirdos) and there was a guy carrying a HUGE cross. I was thinking “really?” and my friend said out loud “Good for you brother!” It revealed something in my heart that I did not care for.
August 5, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Hmm. Those are some hard hitting questions, Michelle. You’ve got me curious about myself, too. I can’t begin to guess why you react the way you do, but I’ll share what happens in my heart. It boils down to those three modes of persuasion (ethos, pathos, and logos). If the preacher is showing pathos and ethos but no logos, then he or she may persuade people but he’s only offered them fluff (tastes good but is ultimately lacking substance). If the preacher offers only logos, but no pathos or ethos, then he or she may convince still persuade people but may dissuade many others. Moreover, those convinced might take up the same tactic.
When I hear a street preacher, I listen and wait. But, truth be told, often times I’m distracted by the environment (if we’re talking about Venice Beach, there’s plenty to be distracted by). Sadly, there are more times I’ve done nothing more than pass by the street preacher, thinking (praying) to myself, “I hope you got it covered, buddy, because you have a precious argument in your hands.”
August 5, 2011 at 1:41 pm
@Sandra, how refreshing that you actually had a “Body of Christ” mentality where you wanted to speak with the preacher and hoped to help him. Thank you for being an example.
August 5, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Loving the dialogue here! Keep it comin’ 🙂
August 8, 2011 at 2:17 pm
“My hope is that someone will be willing to have a conversation with the preacher and share how his approach comes across and that he will be open to the discussion.”
Surely you jest… I think we all know how that conversation would go. He is convinced what he is doing is the right thing Biblically (even though he has no Biblical support), and you know how those conversations go. Sad…
August 8, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Unless you personally know that preacher, or perhaps the superhuman gift of omniscience, I don’t think your statement is fair. More often than not, I have been surprised at peoples responses. Some who I thought would shut me down, really took my comments to heart. Others who I had no apprehension at all, have rudely dismissed me.
August 8, 2011 at 2:54 pm
To quote a familiar line, “I am serious. And don’t call me Shirley.” I might be disregarded, even put down for it, but I hope to always be willing to step into difficult but loving conversations. Being unwilling to speak up is just as sad as being unwilling to hear, no?
August 8, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Good for me to remember. Cowardice and arrogance are both sins in my Father’s eyes.
August 11, 2011 at 3:24 pm
I was being facetious, sorta. Of course I would say something to him in a gracious way. I did it not too long ago in the Milwaukee airport with a group of KJV only guys sending everyone in the airport to hell… but I can be a Debbie-Downer sometimes when it comes to dealing with legalism. It’s a tiresome battle… Its almost easier to deal with atheists than it is with certain sects of our Christian brothers and sisters.
August 12, 2011 at 2:30 pm
I definitely feel ya about being a Debbie Downer sometimes. Knowing when and how to open up conversation with our brothers and sisters can be tricky. But at least we’re willing to try, right? 🙂
August 9, 2011 at 7:12 pm
As a man who does various forms of evangelism, but not any open air methods, what I have learned is that we should let the Spirit lead. We all want to help our brethren in on a mission, but almost helping is of no help at all. How many people do you suppose heard the Gospel that day? How many heard the Gospel that day from you? How much did you help anyone communicate the Gospel that day? Who sacrificed for the Great Commission of Christ? I hope you did, and I hope you did better than this preacher. We all should practice what we preach, but I don’t care what the problem is as much as I care that the problem is fixed. We have heard “There is no wrong way to eat a Reese’s®”. If we keep the Kingdom of God first there is no wrong Gospel to preach. In Acts we see many people repent and many riot, but the Gospel produces the response. There is no silver bullet whether we use the Way of the Master, Romans Road, Tactics, FAITH, Evangelism Explosion, etc. I was once at a busy restaurant when a woman stood on the corner of a very busy intersection holding a sign stating something about Jesus. I thought about the how this could make Christians look nutty. Then a lost woman I knew said, “She’s doing exactly what God wants her to do. She’s getting everyone to talk about Jesus.” I looked around at everyone inside the place and thanked God for what the sign lady had started. God was in every conversion I could see as all eyes were on the sign lady.
August 11, 2011 at 7:53 am
You’re right, Richard. Almost helping is of no help at all. I was aware of that when I walked away from the crowd and felt horrible for it. Yet I was also aware I didn’t want my kids to hear the language that was coming out of the second young man’s mouth. Will I say something the next time I’m in a similar situation? I hope so. And since I tend to shy away from what I would perceive as a difficult conversation, I will pray that when the time comes I’ll let the Spirit lead.
July 20, 2012 at 9:46 am
Evangelism is a tricky thing. I think that it can go too far into the “hell and brimstone” shouting, and it can also lean too heavily on emotion. The Gospel tells us to “repent, for the kingdom of God is near” which was John the Baptists main message in paving the way for Christ’s coming. This statement, again, can be taken in the wrong implications. The real issue in my eyes is what the Kingdom of God is.
What am I repenting for, and what is this God and where is His kingdom?
This is maybe going off topic and lengthy for a comment (sorry Sandra :o| ) but I think it is important to explain; we as believers hopefully know what God is, if not go to reasons.org. We as believers may NOT know WHO God is. This was a problem that Moses had in Exodus 33. Moses had seen all these great miracles performed by the Lord and had spoke to the Lord personally, but we find that Moses did not understand God’s character. As I read nearly on a daily basis of some hyped of preacher or public Christian figure caught in some horrid public scandal or grotesque sin, it is no wonder that non-believers write us off. The issue is that there is a focal point that is not centered on the true Gospel, on knowing our Lord and Savior, and on STRIVING to be the example, the light, to the world that would and SHOULD cause the common man and women in the world to look as us passing by and say “there is something different about you…. What is it?” which should be our main way in to evangelize.
The Kingdom of God is not heaven.
No, it is not.
The Kingdom of God is the ethical kingdom that Christians enter into when they repent for their sins and accept Christ as the Messiah and Lord.
Jesus did not walk around saying repent or you are going to hell. Nor did he walk around teaching the Torah as we are being told my popular Christian media. In fact walking around Jerusalem teaching the Torah would be like teaching a medical doctor how to properly apply a band-aid.
The Israelite’s knew the Torah, in fact they should have been able to recite it by the time they were 12 (at the most).
Christ taught beyond the Torah; He did not teach the law of it, he taught the ethics of Christianity; i.e. “I saw to you the law says you are to not murder, but I say unto you that to have anger without cause is like murder.”
So we as believers are not only called to live up to the standards of not doing these basic commands, but to be able to grow and mature into a place wherein we do not even THINK about doing these things (James 1:14-15 outlines this, “But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.”)
So if we as Christians begin to mortify our members (passions\lust) to not be enticed to fulfill our curiosity about that which we know is wrong, then we begin to find ourselves dropping off our sins one by one.
When you begin to say no, i am not going to do this and you stop doing that thing that you know is wrong, then you begin to stop struggling with it, so much so that to the point you do not even entertain the though of it and it becomes a non-issue.
Back to evangelism;
If this preacher had any kind of point to make I think that he lost his opportunity to show the love that we are supposed to reflect. If he simply said “Jesus has forgiven you” after the young man was coerced into admitting his sins publicly, I feel that would have had a deeper impact than an ensuing argument with somebody else from the crowd.
I try to participate in evangelism whenever I can. I am introverted by nature, so it is not so public and blaring as others, but the most common way I try to witness is through kindness.
That homeless guy on the freeway exit, that disheveled looking woman walking down the street, the people sitting in solitude looking like they have given up on life would all benefit from a simple acknowledgement that they exist, and that SOMEBODY sees them, If you ever had a bad day and some stranger said hi and shot you a smile, then maybe you know the power that this simple action has.
As a believer, I am sometimes embarrassed by my peers. Some believers who look down upon the poor and needy, or those blatantly sinning, or other people who are currently in a less-then-desirable lifestyle choice.
We are not the judges, we are supposed to be the link between the person and their judge, and we are supposed to express that they can be forgiven, and that somebody cares for them, and even though things may be falling apart there is a God who has been there beside them just waiting to be able to show himself as a loving father and a merciful forgiver to them.
July 20, 2012 at 10:02 am
Beautifully stated, Anthony. I found myself nodding in agreement throughout. The Holy Spirit’s presence in our lives should be evident–something that, as you said, causes others to wonder what it is that’s different about us. What I appreciated most about what you said is that there are opportunities (for the introvert like you, and the extrovert like me) to speak truth and love into people’s lives. Truth that reveals–to the homeless, to the broken, to the despairing–that there is a God who loves them deeper than they can fathom.
Thank you for your comment, Anthony! 🙂